Legislature(2023 - 2024)SENATE FINANCE 532

01/19/2024 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE

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09:02:57 AM Savings, Reserves, and Investments: Department of Revenue
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                 SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                     January 19, 2024                                                                                           
                         9:01 a.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:01:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman called the Senate Finance Committee                                                                            
meeting to order at 9:01 a.m.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lyman Hoffman, Co-Chair                                                                                                 
Senator Donny Olson, Co-Chair                                                                                                   
Senator Bert Stedman, Co-Chair                                                                                                  
Senator Click Bishop                                                                                                            
Senator Jesse Kiehl                                                                                                             
Senator Kelly Merrick                                                                                                           
Senator David Wilson                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
None                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Adam Crum, Commissioner, Department of Revenue; Zach Hanna,                                                                     
Chief Investment Officer, Commissioner Crum; Pam Leary,                                                                         
Director, Treasury Division, Department of Revenue.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
^SAVINGS, RESERVES, and INVESTMENTS: DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:02:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADAM  CRUM,  COMMISSIONER,   DEPARTMENT  OF  REVENUE,  (DOR)                                                                    
discussed   the  presentation,   "Update   on  the   State's                                                                    
Investment  Funds  and  Cash   Flows"  (copy  on  file).  He                                                                    
addressed slide 2, "Agenda":                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Meet the Treasury                                                                                                          
     State Investment Funds                                                                                                     
     State Cash Flows                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Crum highlighted slide 4, "Department of                                                                           
Revenue Treasury Division":                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     The  Treasury Division  is  managed  by 40  experienced                                                                    
     professionals  in   portfolio  management,  accounting,                                                                    
     operations, compliance,  and cash  management. Treasury                                                                    
     staff  average tenure  is over  10  years and  includes                                                                    
     CFA's,  CPA's, CTP's  and  other  advanced degrees  and                                                                    
     designations.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Managing numerous  funds and cash flows  is complex and                                                                    
     requires   understanding   investment  management   and                                                                    
     banking systems  which are  highly integrated  into the                                                                    
     State accounting system.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
          In  FY2023,  there  were  57,000  trades  made  on                                                                    
          behalf  of hundreds  of state  accounts that  roll                                                                    
          into 48 investment  funds, utilizing 32 investment                                                                    
          pools, supported  by 150 of external  and internal                                                                    
          investment managers and 600 private equity funds.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
          Accounting ensures  that all trades and  costs are                                                                    
          directed   and  accounted   for  in   the  correct                                                                    
          accounts/funds.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
          The  Middle office  performs 160  compliance tests                                                                    
          on trades  daily and calculates  daily performance                                                                    
          for 30 state funds internally.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
          Cash   Management    processes   roughly   100,000                                                                    
          transactions annually  for departments  to realize                                                                    
          revenue   and  expenditures   in  the   accounting                                                                    
          system.  There  are  over   $15  billion  in  cash                                                                    
          inflows and cash outflows annually.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     It  takes  a  unique  set of  skills  to  manage  these                                                                    
     complex systems with strong results.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:05:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Crum pointed to slide 5, "Treasury Manages                                                                         
Complex Funds for Multiple Fiduciaries":                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Treasury  manages  $50  billion  in  assets  for  funds                                                                    
     across  the   risk  spectrum  from  lower   risk  cash-                                                                    
     equivalent  investments through  higher risk  endowment                                                                    
     and retirement funds.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Over 50  percent of 12/31/2023 assets  were directed or                                                                    
     traded internally by Treasury staff.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Staff meet  with state fiduciaries regularly  to review                                                                    
     investment  performance and  set investment  policy and                                                                    
     asset allocations.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Quarterly  Alaska  Retirement Management  Board  (ARMB)                                                                    
     and   State   Investment    Review   meetings   include                                                                    
     additional  oversight  by   an  independent  investment                                                                    
     advisory committee and other  experts and materials are                                                                    
     publicly available on the Treasury website.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     The Treasury  Division's work is mission  critical, and                                                                    
     the benefits  provided in the  form of  excess returns,                                                                    
     external  cost   savings,  and  error   prevention  are                                                                    
     significant.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman requested some footnotes on the slides                                                                         
about the background and description of the funds.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Crum agreed to provide that information.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:08:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ZACH HANNA, CHIEF INVESTMENT OFFICER, COMMISSIONER CRUM,                                                                        
displayed slide 6, "Treasury Results are Strong":                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Investment  returns  for  the State's  defined  benefit                                                                    
     retirement  systems have  been in  the top-quartile  of                                                                    
     peer   performance   and   have   exceeded   benchmarks                                                                    
     materially. This has resulted  in $2+ billion in excess                                                                    
     returns  over  the past  10  years,  ahead of  over  80                                                                    
     percent of peer public pensions.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     FY23  investment  returns  for  state  funds  surpassed                                                                    
     benchmarks, ranging from 4 percent  to 11.6 percent and                                                                    
     were  even  stronger  for   the  1-year  period  ending                                                                    
     12/31/23 from 5 percent to 17 percent.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Treasury uses  low-cost internal  investment management                                                                    
     where appropriate.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     For  FY23, internal  investing  resulted in  investment                                                                    
     management  fee  savings  of  $30  million  and  excess                                                                    
     returns of $90 million.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     The Treasury's cost structure  is materially lower than                                                                    
     its   peers.  FY23   fees  for   the  defined   benefit                                                                    
     retirement systems  were 38 bps compared  with a median                                                                    
     of 56  bps for  large plans  a  difference of  over $50                                                                    
     million per year.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Professional  and institutional  knowledge is  critical                                                                    
     to maintaining strong results  since the investment and                                                                    
     retirement systems are complex.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman asked for an explanation of the tables on                                                                      
slide 6.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Hanna replied that those were the returns as reported                                                                       
by Callan through September 30, 2023.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:10:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman wondered whether the employees, teachers,                                                                      
and Judiciary employees were co-mingled.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Hanna replied that the employees and teachers had the                                                                       
same asset allocation, and the Judiciary had a separate                                                                         
asset allocation.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Hanna looked to slide 8, "Capital Market Performance                                                                        
Update":                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     After   a   challenging   2022,  calendar   year   2023                                                                    
     performance was strong, but  volatile across most asset                                                                    
     classes.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Capital markets  have been focused on  the interplay of                                                                    
     inflation, interest rates, and economic growth.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     To  combat  inflation,  the Federal  Reserve  increased                                                                    
     short-term interest rates 5.25  percent, which led to a                                                                    
     decrease in  annualized inflation  from 9.1  percent in                                                                    
     June of 2022 to 3.4 percent in December of 2023.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     As inflation  has moderated, the potential  for further                                                                    
     interest  rate increases  and  the  associated drag  on                                                                    
     economic growth has decreased.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     As  a result,  equity markets  recovered strongly  from                                                                    
     the correction of 2022 and  both core U.S. fixed income                                                                    
     and cash equivalents benefited from high yields.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Hanna pointed to slide 9, "Treasury Asset Class                                                                             
Performance":                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     State   funds   invest   in  commingled   asset   class                                                                    
     investments  managed  by  Treasury staff  and  external                                                                    
     managers.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     These  asset class  investments are  used in  different                                                                    
     proportions to meet fund investment policies.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     State asset  class performance  for calendar  year 2023                                                                    
     was strong across asset classes.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Most asset classes  also exceeded benchmark performance                                                                    
     for the year and  longer time periods adding additional                                                                    
     value.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:13:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PAM LEARY, DIRECTOR, TREASURY DIVISION, DEPARTMENT OF                                                                           
REVENUE, addressed slide 10, "Constitutional Budget Reserve                                                                     
Fund (CBRF) Historical Invested Assets (in billions)":                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     In 1990, voters  of Alaska adopted an  amendment to the                                                                    
     constitution creating the CBRF.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     The  CBRF has  been used  to fund  temporary cash  flow                                                                    
     expense/revenue mismatches and  to cover budget revenue                                                                    
     shortfalls  through appropriation.  Appropriations from                                                                    
     the CBRF must be repaid.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     In 2000,  the legislature  created a subaccount  in the                                                                    
     CBRF to be  used for funds that will not  be needed for                                                                    
     at least 5 years.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:16:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman surmised that  the sub-account was targeted                                                                    
at  a longer  holding period  and  a higher  rate of  return                                                                    
target. He  queried the level  of the main account  would be                                                                    
needed to move money into the sub-account.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Crum  replied  that the  statutory  discretion                                                                    
resided  within  the commissioner  of  DOR.  He stated  that                                                                    
there was no set target. He  shared that it was an item that                                                                    
was  only recently  examined  to  determine the  appropriate                                                                    
levels.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman stressed that  the budget would be examined                                                                    
with the chance to see what  was not included in the budget.                                                                    
He remarked  that there would  be revenue  projections based                                                                    
on oil  price and volume, with  specific sensitivity levels.                                                                    
He remarked  that there would be  a focus on the  moving the                                                                    
target.  He stated  that there  would be  discussions around                                                                    
adjusting that  benchmark, with analysis on  whether to call                                                                    
on  the  subaccount.  He  stressed that  the  CBR  could  be                                                                    
drained, so  wanted to  ensure that  the exercises  were run                                                                    
for the health of the fund.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Crum  agreed that  there was  not more  than $2                                                                    
billion  in the  CBR  for a  few years,  and  agreed to  run                                                                    
various analyses.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman felt  that  there  were more  conservative                                                                    
forecasts required examination.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:20:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Hanna  highlighted  slide  11,  "Constitutional  Budget                                                                    
Reserve  Fund (CBRF)  Fiduciary  oversight: Commissioner  of                                                                    
Revenue."  He summarized  the policy  used  for state  asset                                                                    
allocation.  He  shared  that   there  was  a  formal  state                                                                    
investment  review and  an  independent investment  advisory                                                                    
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  wanted more  information about  the review                                                                    
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Crum  stated that there were  regular quarterly                                                                    
meetings  with  investment  advisors  to  advise  on  public                                                                    
funds.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Stedman   stated   that  the   board   gave   the                                                                    
commissioner some  counseling from professionals  on complex                                                                    
decisions. He felt that the  board was an important internal                                                                    
mechanism to help minimize errors.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:25:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Leary pointed to slide  12, "General Fund and Other Non-                                                                    
Segregated Investments (GeFONSI)  Historical Invested Assets                                                                    
(in billions)":                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     GeFONSI  includes  the  General   Fund  and  Other  Non                                                                    
     segregated funds  invested in a pooled  environment (GF                                                                    
     proper  carries a  minimum balance  of $400  million to                                                                    
     pay our bills).                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Hanna looked  at slide 13, "General Fund  and Other Non-                                                                    
Segregated   Investments  (GeFONSI   I  and   II)  Fiduciary                                                                    
oversight: Commissioner of Revenue."                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman   wondered  whether  the  reason   for  no                                                                    
benchmark was because the state always beat the benchmark.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Hanna replied that there  was no benchmark. He explained                                                                    
that the  benchmarks were approved  by the  consultants, and                                                                    
were universally used for the  asset classes. He stated that                                                                    
the  long-term  investor  in  the   asset  classes  with  an                                                                    
experienced  team,   there  was  a  belief   that  producing                                                                    
consistent excess returns were the focus.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner   Crum  explained   that  there   was  internal                                                                    
monitoring with a  benchmark that would be  the request from                                                                    
the consultants.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Leary  addressed  slide 14,  "Alaska  Higher  Education                                                                    
Investment  Fund  (AHEIF)  Historical  Invested  Assets  (in                                                                    
millions)":                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     On September 1, 2012, the  AHEIF was capitalized with a                                                                    
     $400  million  deposit  from  receipts  of  the  Alaska                                                                    
     Housing Capital  Corporation for  use in  paying Alaska                                                                    
     Performance  Scholarship  Awards and  Alaska  Advantage                                                                    
     Education Grants.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:30:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Hanna pointed  to slide  15,  "Alaska Higher  Education                                                                    
Investment  Fund (AHEIF)  Fiduciary oversight:  Commissioner                                                                    
of Revenue."                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Leary  highlighted slide 16,  "Public School  Trust Fund                                                                    
(PSTF) Historical Invested Assets (in millions)":                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     The  PSTF  was  established   in  1978,  replacing  the                                                                    
     territorial  era public  school  land grant  originally                                                                    
     created  by congress  in  1915, by  a  transfer of  the                                                                    
     balance from the permanent school trust.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Following passage  of HB 213  in 2018, the fund  is now                                                                    
     managed  as  one fund,  under  a  percentage of  market                                                                    
     value  method (5  percent of  the average  market value                                                                    
     for  the 5  years  preceding the  last previous  fiscal                                                                    
     year).                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  looked at the  Higher Education  Fund, and                                                                    
noted the allocation of 70/30,  which was a standard balance                                                                    
portfolio.  He,  however, noted  the  7  percent payout.  He                                                                    
queried the  expectation out of  the balance  portfolio over                                                                    
time.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Hanna  replied  that  the  projected  return  was  6.83                                                                    
percent. He  remarked that there  was a hope that  there was                                                                    
an  emergence out  of a  fairly low  return environment.  He                                                                    
stressed that  a 70/30 portfolio would  be considered highly                                                                    
prudent.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:35:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  wondered  how  to  protect  the  fund  in                                                                    
perpetuity from purchasing power.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Hanna replied  that, in the abstract,  the spending rate                                                                    
was low at  around 4 percent. He stated that  there would be                                                                    
less  than full  inflation proofing  if the  fund was  spent                                                                    
beyond 7 percent.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  felt that the  committee should  take that                                                                    
into consideration.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Hanna discussed  slide 17,  "Public  School Trust  Fund                                                                    
(PSTF)  Fiduciary oversight:  Commissioner  of Revenue."  He                                                                    
stated  that the  fund  had  the same  risk  profile as  the                                                                    
Higher Education Fund, and the  performance was also similar                                                                    
to the Higher Education Fund.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Leary  looked at  slide  18,  "Power Cost  Equalization                                                                    
(PCE) Historical Invested Assets (in millions)":                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     The purpose of  the PCE Endowment fund is  to provide a                                                                    
     long-term   stable  financing   source  that   provides                                                                    
     affordable   levels  of   electric  utility   costs  in                                                                    
     otherwise high-cost service areas of the state.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     SB 98 transferred the investment management of the                                                                         
     fund to the Alaska Permanent Fund Corporation July 1,                                                                      
     2023.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Hanna  addressed  slide 19,  "Power  Cost  Equalization                                                                    
(PCE)  Fiduciary  oversight:  Changed from  Commissioner  of                                                                    
Revenue to APFC." He stated  that the fund was liquidated to                                                                    
cash to transfer at the end of the fiscal year.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman surmised that the cash was moved to APFC.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Hanna replied in the affirmative.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Crum furthered  that  the  fund was  monitored                                                                    
with a strategic plan.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:40:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilson queried the projected  10-year return for the                                                                    
fund.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Hanna  replied it had  the same asset allocation  as the                                                                    
prior  discussed funds.  He stated  that 6.83  percent would                                                                    
have been the projected return                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Kiehl  wondered  why  it  was  preferable  to  only                                                                    
liquidate and transfer only cash  rather than securities and                                                                    
bonds.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Hanna  replied that  it  was  operational complex,  and                                                                    
legally   challenging   to   transfer   securities   between                                                                    
entities.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman  wondered  whether  the  decision  was  in                                                                    
compliance with the law.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Crum replied in the affirmative.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman stated that the  asset allocation was "very                                                                    
happy in its new home."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Leary  discussed slide 20, "Public  Employees Retirement                                                                    
System (PERS) and Teachers  Retirement System (TRS)  Pension                                                                    
and Health Defined Benefit  Plans Historical Invested Assets                                                                    
(in billions)":                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     The Alaska Retirement Management Board (ARMB) is a 9-                                                                      
     person board and fiduciary of the state's pension and                                                                      
     health systems.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Hanna   highlighted   slide  21,   "Public   Employees                                                                    
Retirement System  and Teachers Retirement  System Fiduciary                                                                    
oversight: Alaska Retirement Management Board."                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:45:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman asked why the two dates were not the same.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Hanna   replied  that   the  presence   of  alternative                                                                    
investments took time to provide the returns.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman requested  an update of the  data set after                                                                    
the returns.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Hanna agreed to provide that information.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Leary looked to slide 23, "SOA Treasury Cash Flow":                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Cash Inflows                                                                                                               
          Tax Revenues                                                                                                          
          Oil and Gas, Excise, Other                                                                                            
          Federal Dollars                                                                                                       
         Grants, Medicaid, FHWA, Education, Other                                                                               
          Earnings Reserve Funds                                                                                                
          Agency Receipts                                                                                                       
          Fees, Licenses, Permits, Fines, Other                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Cash Outflows                                                                                                              
          School Education Payments                                                                                             
          Payroll and Pension Payments                                                                                          
          Vendor Payments                                                                                                       
          Medicaid Payments                                                                                                     
          External Program Grant Payments                                                                                       
          Debt Service Payments                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  queried the reason  why "credits"  was not                                                                    
in the "out flow" list.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Leary replied that it would be included in the                                                                              
following year's presentation.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Leary pointed to slide 24, "Revenue":                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Commodity Volatility                                                                                                       
           Petroleum  revenues   are  projected  to   be  37                                                                    
          percent   of   FY24  unrestricted   general   fund                                                                    
          revenues.                                                                                                             
           Uncertainty   exists  "in-year"   for  FY24   and                                                                    
          beyond.                                                                                                               
           Will always have  in-year uncertainty because the                                                                    
          budget is based on in-year oil collections.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Investment Return Volatility                                                                                               
           Investment  earnings  are   projected  to  be  56                                                                    
          percent   of   FY24  unrestricted   general   fund                                                                    
          revenues.                                                                                                             
           Certainty exists  today for FY24 and  FY25 due to                                                                    
          a lagging Percent of Market Value (POMV) formula.                                                                     
          Uncertainty exists for FY26 and beyond.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman looked at slide 23, and noted that the                                                                         
Permanent Fund Dividend (PFD) payments were not included in                                                                     
the slide as an expenditure.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Crum agreed to include PFDs in the list, and                                                                       
stated that the list was not intended to be inclusive.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman felt that large items should be included                                                                       
in the lists.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:49:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Leary looked at slide 25, "Expenditures":                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Expenditures can occur prior to receipt of revenue,                                                                        
     resulting in cash flow timing mismatches:                                                                                  
           Federal  programs   require  expenditures  before                                                                    
          reimbursement.                                                                                                        
               •i.e. Medicaid, Transportation, etc.                                                                             
           Beginning of year  appropriation transfers do not                                                                    
          match incoming revenue.                                                                                               
               •i.e. State pension payments, transfers to                                                                       
               sub funds for programs.                                                                                          
           Seasonal Cash Flow needs.                                                                                            
               •i.e. Summer is the peak season for                                                                              
               construction projects and seasonal workers.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:51:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bishop wondered whether  payroll for contractors was                                                                    
every two weeks.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Leary  replied  that  she  did  not  know  the  payment                                                                    
schedule.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bishop  wondered who would  write the checks  to the                                                                    
contractors.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Leary replied  that the  money would  flow through  the                                                                    
general fund to pay contractors through the departments.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bishop wondered  whether  there were  relationships                                                                    
with the departments  to ensure that cash  was available for                                                                    
checks.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Leary replied in the affirmative.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman   asked  about  how  the   Permanent  Fund                                                                    
transfer was handled to ensure cash flow.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Leary  replied  that  there  was  a  transfer  schedule                                                                    
drafted and redrafted to ensure  the money was available for                                                                    
expected needs.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman queried the schedule of the transfer.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Leary replied  that it was about every  two months, with                                                                    
some changes in the schedule based on need.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:55:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman felt that there  had been improvements over                                                                    
time on that scheduling.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Crum furthered  that there  was work  with the                                                                    
Permanent  Fund to  ensure maximization  of returns,  before                                                                    
transferring the money.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Leary addressed slide 26, "Cash Flow Deficiencies":                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Prior to  1985, most unrestricted revenues  flowed into                                                                    
     and stayed in the General Fund for expenditure.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Over time,  the legislature established  many sub-funds                                                                    
     of  the general  fund to  segregate cash  for budgeting                                                                    
     purposes, resulting in less cash  available to pay day-                                                                    
     to-day operating costs.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Cash Flow Deficiencies are common and managed by:                                                                          
           Adjusting timing of Earnings Reserve Account                                                                         
          transfers to the General Fund.                                                                                        
           Borrowing from Budget Reserves or Other Funds.                                                                       
           Managing timing of expenditures.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Leary pointed to slide 27, "Revenue Shortfalls":                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     A  revenue shortfall  differs from  a cash  flow timing                                                                    
     deficiency. A revenue shortfall  occurs when revenue is                                                                    
     insufficient  to cover  general fund  appropriations in                                                                    
     any given fiscal year.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     The  legislature  includes  language  annually  in  the                                                                    
     operating  budget  appropriating budget  reserve  funds                                                                    
     for revenue shortfalls.                                                                                                    
          •  Treasury has  relied on  this appropriation  to                                                                    
          authorize use  of budget reserve funds  to address                                                                    
          both  revenue  shortfalls  and  cash  flow  timing                                                                    
          mismatches.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     The Constitutional  Budget Reserve fund (CBR)  has been                                                                    
     used to cover revenue  shortfalls historically. The CBR                                                                    
     was fully  repaid by FY2010 with  no borrowing activity                                                                    
     from the CBR until FY2015.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman questioned the benchmarks to ensure that                                                                       
money was not spent more than the appropriation.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Leary replied that the state accounting system had                                                                          
appropriation limits.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:00:40 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Leary discussed slide 28, "Cash Deficiency Memorandum                                                                       
of Understanding":                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Developed in 1994 between DOR, DOA, OMB and LAW.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Updated as needed.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Targets $400 million minimum cash threshold in the                                                                         
     General Fund proper.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Outlines procedures for addressing cash flow timing                                                                        
     mismatches:                                                                                                                
           Develop monthly cash projections.                                                                                    
           Monitor daily general fund cash balances. Update                                                                     
          forecasts based on new cash flows.                                                                                    
           Execute appropriated transfers from ERA, CBR, or                                                                     
          others.                                                                                                               
           Perform temporary fund borrowing (CBR, ERA, sub-                                                                     
          funds) to be repaid by fiscal year end.                                                                               
           In the event of forecasted revenue shortfall:                                                                        
               •   Seek  legislative   action  through   the                                                                    
               Governor to  access additional  funds through                                                                    
               appropriation   from   other  Reserve   Funds                                                                    
               discussed above.                                                                                                 
               •    Prioritize    disbursements,    restrict                                                                    
               expenditures.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman wondered when the restriction of                                                                               
expenditure almost occurred.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Leary replied that it was in the 1990s.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Crum stated that possible federal shutdowns                                                                        
were also considered shortfalls, and there was continual                                                                        
examinations about those possibilities.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman agreed that it was a significant cash flow                                                                     
issue.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Leary looked at slide 29, "Cash Flow Summary":                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Cash flow forecasting changes due to amount and timing                                                                     
     of revenues and expenditures.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Even with balanced budgets, cash flow timing                                                                               
     mismatches will occur.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Revenue shortfalls may occur if forecasted assumptions                                                                     
     are wrong.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman wanted to ensure  that there was not a cash                                                                    
flow  problem, but  the presentation  was an  examination of                                                                    
the  possibilities around  processing  and accessibility  to                                                                    
that cash.  He stressed that  the role of the  committee was                                                                    
to  ensure  that  DOR  had   ample  liquidity  to  make  the                                                                    
payments. He also  pointed out that the  credit rating would                                                                    
improve with timely payments.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:05:58 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Crum appreciated  the  discussion, and  stated                                                                    
that there were robust  processes to maintain the operations                                                                    
of  the state.  He pointed  out that  the threat  of federal                                                                    
shutdown  was continually  analyzed, and  plans around  that                                                                    
possibility.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  thanked   the  presenters  and  discussed                                                                    
housekeeping.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
10:09:00 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 10:08 a.m.                                                                                         

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
011924 GeFONSI I and II - CBRF - SBRF.pdf SFIN 1/19/2024 9:00:00 AM
S.FIN Savings Accounts and Cash Flow Presentation 01.19.24.pdf SFIN 1/19/2024 9:00:00 AM